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		<title>By: Gem</title>
		<link>http://www.bark-n-blog.com/2006/06/17/anesthesia-toxicity-in-pets/comment-page-1/#comment-19414</link>
		<dc:creator>Gem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 16:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are Veterinarians, then there are McVets who have the time and staff to sell crap such as Science Diet.

The BEST veterinarians are too busy just DIAGNOSING and TREATING to be worried about selling and up-selling. And their facilities/appointment availability are not set up for "high volume" because they're already overwhelmed with too much "business" merely due to their reputations and word of mouth.

RUN from salespeople pushing Science Diet and find the BEST veterinarian -- even if you have to travel further.

 And talk about a CONFLICT of INTEREST if your dog has an ailment related to a food a vet sells you@!!! (Allergies to corn, anyone??) 

Thank you for a wonderful site, Kim &#038; Shadrach!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Veterinarians, then there are McVets who have the time and staff to sell crap such as Science Diet.</p>
<p>The BEST veterinarians are too busy just DIAGNOSING and TREATING to be worried about selling and up-selling. And their facilities/appointment availability are not set up for &#8220;high volume&#8221; because they&#8217;re already overwhelmed with too much &#8220;business&#8221; merely due to their reputations and word of mouth.</p>
<p>RUN from salespeople pushing Science Diet and find the BEST veterinarian &#8212; even if you have to travel further.</p>
<p> And talk about a CONFLICT of INTEREST if your dog has an ailment related to a food a vet sells you@!!! (Allergies to corn, anyone??) </p>
<p>Thank you for a wonderful site, Kim &#038; Shadrach!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Boyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jul 2006 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: UK vet response. Seems to me that mainstream allopathic medicine shows contempt prior to investigation, ignoring sound data. Shame shame</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: UK vet response. Seems to me that mainstream allopathic medicine shows contempt prior to investigation, ignoring sound data. Shame shame</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie Thomason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie Thomason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Lucus,

I am the author of this article and am disapointed you feel so resistant to change. 

"The reality is that your knowledge of medicine and your healthcare system will continue to evolve and change.  You must be open to challenging your thinking and perceptions so that you can see the choices available, in order to progress to a better way of helping your patients. If you are to achieve an improved outcome for your patients, you have to acquire the information needed, go forward, and occasionally step out of your comfort zone. You not only have the choice, you have the responsibility, an obligation to your patients to provide the most up to date medicine you humanly can."  Bob Rogers DVM  Please read his entire article here: 
http://critteradvocacy.org/Finding%20The%20Courage%20To%20Change.htm 

There is a lot of information and scientific proof out there that dogs are carnivores and that they have far fewer diseases when fed a raw diet compared to kibble fed dogs. I put together an article for a veterinarian recenty that has some references if you would like to read it.  You can find it here:
http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id51.html

My hope and prayer is that Veterinarians and pet owners alike, get the facts and make an informed and open-minded decisions about thier pets (and their own) health care.

Have A Pawsitively Grrrreat Day!
 
Jeannie
Natural Dog Care Educator, Nutrition Consultant, Pet Aromatherapy Practitioner
 
"The great aim of education is not knowledge, but action" 
Herbert Spencer
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Whole Dog News Blog
http://www.wholedognews.com
 
The Whole Dog
http://www.thewholedogstore.com
 
Animal Talk Naturally internet radio show/podcast 
http://www.animaltalknaturally.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Lucus,</p>
<p>I am the author of this article and am disapointed you feel so resistant to change. </p>
<p>&#8220;The reality is that your knowledge of medicine and your healthcare system will continue to evolve and change.  You must be open to challenging your thinking and perceptions so that you can see the choices available, in order to progress to a better way of helping your patients. If you are to achieve an improved outcome for your patients, you have to acquire the information needed, go forward, and occasionally step out of your comfort zone. You not only have the choice, you have the responsibility, an obligation to your patients to provide the most up to date medicine you humanly can.&#8221;  Bob Rogers DVM  Please read his entire article here:<br />
<a href="http://critteradvocacy.org/Finding%20The%20Courage%20To%20Change.htm" rel="nofollow">http://critteradvocacy.org/Finding%20The%20Courage%20To%20Change.htm</a> </p>
<p>There is a lot of information and scientific proof out there that dogs are carnivores and that they have far fewer diseases when fed a raw diet compared to kibble fed dogs. I put together an article for a veterinarian recenty that has some references if you would like to read it.  You can find it here:<br />
<a href="http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id51.html" rel="nofollow">http://dogtorj.tripod.com/id51.html</a></p>
<p>My hope and prayer is that Veterinarians and pet owners alike, get the facts and make an informed and open-minded decisions about thier pets (and their own) health care.</p>
<p>Have A Pawsitively Grrrreat Day!</p>
<p>Jeannie<br />
Natural Dog Care Educator, Nutrition Consultant, Pet Aromatherapy Practitioner</p>
<p>&#8220;The great aim of education is not knowledge, but action&#8221;<br />
Herbert Spencer<br />
______________________________<br />
Whole Dog News Blog<br />
<a href="http://www.wholedognews.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wholedognews.com</a></p>
<p>The Whole Dog<br />
<a href="http://www.thewholedogstore.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewholedogstore.com</a></p>
<p>Animal Talk Naturally internet radio show/podcast<br />
<a href="http://www.animaltalknaturally.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.animaltalknaturally.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelli Danielsen, C.P.D.T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelli Danielsen, C.P.D.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All~
I can only speak from my personal experience, as I am not a vet not did I attend vet school, however, I am a person with common sense and a vast background in training and veterinary technology. My common sense tells me that if a dog (or any creature, for that matter) eats a diet of fresh, whole, unprocessed foods, they will only be better for it. I would certainly not think I was eating healthy if all I ate came from a box or bag, so I certainly would not feed some of my most treasured family members that way.That said, I have spoken to and am even friends with vets who take the position Lucas has, and, my OPINION is that the "old school" methods are very comforting for many and have "worked" for decades, and so many vets have seen such terrible illnesses, fear and "what if" can play a huge role in philosophy.I think as raw diets become more mainstream, some may relax a bit about it. and, I also fully recognize a raw diet is not suitable for every dog or realistice for every person, I only hope that vets can continue to educate themselves about nutrition and work with a client to find the best solution, even home cooked diets are better than so many kibbles (depending on ingredients of course). Vets who are so adversarial only isolate themselves from great people and dogs who have so much to offer.
This is a great debate!
Best Regards
Kelli Danielsen, C.P.D.T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All~<br />
I can only speak from my personal experience, as I am not a vet not did I attend vet school, however, I am a person with common sense and a vast background in training and veterinary technology. My common sense tells me that if a dog (or any creature, for that matter) eats a diet of fresh, whole, unprocessed foods, they will only be better for it. I would certainly not think I was eating healthy if all I ate came from a box or bag, so I certainly would not feed some of my most treasured family members that way.That said, I have spoken to and am even friends with vets who take the position Lucas has, and, my OPINION is that the &#8220;old school&#8221; methods are very comforting for many and have &#8220;worked&#8221; for decades, and so many vets have seen such terrible illnesses, fear and &#8220;what if&#8221; can play a huge role in philosophy.I think as raw diets become more mainstream, some may relax a bit about it. and, I also fully recognize a raw diet is not suitable for every dog or realistice for every person, I only hope that vets can continue to educate themselves about nutrition and work with a client to find the best solution, even home cooked diets are better than so many kibbles (depending on ingredients of course). Vets who are so adversarial only isolate themselves from great people and dogs who have so much to offer.<br />
This is a great debate!<br />
Best Regards<br />
Kelli Danielsen, C.P.D.T.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh Foster</title>
		<link>http://www.bark-n-blog.com/2006/06/17/anesthesia-toxicity-in-pets/comment-page-1/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Lucas,
Frankly, I feel that you have absolutely no knowledge of the veterinary profession at all.  I feel that you are just one of those people who have nothing better to do than to stir up trouble over something you know absolutely nothing about!  You claim to be a surgeon, yet you provide no proof.  You claim to enjoy the articles on this site, yet you state that you will laugh at "most of them".

If you truly are a surgeon, then you will know that the information in this article is 100% accurate, as I was once a Veterinary Surgical Assistant at South Shore Animal Hospital in Houghton Lake.  You will then also be aware of the severe problem with MRSA, a surgically based diseased contracted from surgeons who do not use proper asepsis in the surgical room.  You are also aware that the problem is stemming mostly from the veterinarians from the UK....so how do you defend that!?!?!?!?

As far as proof that PROPER feeding of an animal prevents disease, all you have to do is find a person who is feeding their dog a NATURAL DIET OF RAW MEAT AND BONES and do diagnostics on that animal, you will see all the proof you will need!  You will see that every system in that animal is working in the normal ranges of the tests no matter how old that patient is.  You can also look to the veterinarian associations for further information and PROOF!

As for the vaccinations, there is far more proof out there that vaccines are actually KILLING animals and that they DO NOT provide adequate protection against ANY disease that there is no need to go further into that subject.  Obviously you are in a bubble or out in the sticks-I'm surprised that you can even get the internet!  Especially if you don't know that vaccines are not 100% effective against anything but can practically guarantee that the animal will end up with cancer from the injection site.

As far as the statement that dogs today live longer due to veterinary care provided, I would say that they are living longer IN SPITE of veterinarians such as yourself and those as narrow-minded!  It is also NOT a true statement at all!  Where is YOUR proof?  Animals are dying of cancer caused by kibble low grade pet food and vaccines at a much younger age than that of 10 or even 20 years ago.  DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!

Oh, but you are probably not even a veterinarian in the first place and simply just want to stir up trouble for the lack of anything better to do!  So you go right on ahead and keep posting.  I'll be sure to get a great laugh out of your ill-informed information and meaningless babble!

You have yourself a great day, Lucas.  Jeannie, you keep up the great work!

Purrs -n- blessings,
Leigh Foster, D.D., LVT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lucas,<br />
Frankly, I feel that you have absolutely no knowledge of the veterinary profession at all.  I feel that you are just one of those people who have nothing better to do than to stir up trouble over something you know absolutely nothing about!  You claim to be a surgeon, yet you provide no proof.  You claim to enjoy the articles on this site, yet you state that you will laugh at &#8220;most of them&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you truly are a surgeon, then you will know that the information in this article is 100% accurate, as I was once a Veterinary Surgical Assistant at South Shore Animal Hospital in Houghton Lake.  You will then also be aware of the severe problem with MRSA, a surgically based diseased contracted from surgeons who do not use proper asepsis in the surgical room.  You are also aware that the problem is stemming mostly from the veterinarians from the UK&#8230;.so how do you defend that!?!?!?!?</p>
<p>As far as proof that PROPER feeding of an animal prevents disease, all you have to do is find a person who is feeding their dog a NATURAL DIET OF RAW MEAT AND BONES and do diagnostics on that animal, you will see all the proof you will need!  You will see that every system in that animal is working in the normal ranges of the tests no matter how old that patient is.  You can also look to the veterinarian associations for further information and PROOF!</p>
<p>As for the vaccinations, there is far more proof out there that vaccines are actually KILLING animals and that they DO NOT provide adequate protection against ANY disease that there is no need to go further into that subject.  Obviously you are in a bubble or out in the sticks-I&#8217;m surprised that you can even get the internet!  Especially if you don&#8217;t know that vaccines are not 100% effective against anything but can practically guarantee that the animal will end up with cancer from the injection site.</p>
<p>As far as the statement that dogs today live longer due to veterinary care provided, I would say that they are living longer IN SPITE of veterinarians such as yourself and those as narrow-minded!  It is also NOT a true statement at all!  Where is YOUR proof?  Animals are dying of cancer caused by kibble low grade pet food and vaccines at a much younger age than that of 10 or even 20 years ago.  DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!</p>
<p>Oh, but you are probably not even a veterinarian in the first place and simply just want to stir up trouble for the lack of anything better to do!  So you go right on ahead and keep posting.  I&#8217;ll be sure to get a great laugh out of your ill-informed information and meaningless babble!</p>
<p>You have yourself a great day, Lucas.  Jeannie, you keep up the great work!</p>
<p>Purrs -n- blessings,<br />
Leigh Foster, D.D., LVT</p>
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		<title>By: Shadrach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadrach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one more thing you SAY you are a veterinary SURGEON. Meaning you want to mutilate rather than prevent illness. What we talk about here is preventing those illnesses you mentioned through PROPER nutrition, PROPER feeding so you won\\\'t need to cut on them. You are rather goofy because your aim is to wait for the cure and again that is just the dumbest thing because any intelligent person knows that the ounce is far better than the pound when it come to cure. I seriously doubt you\\\'re a surgeon and if so, I reallly feel sorry for the animals in your care.

Have a pawsitively tail waggin\\\', natural health day, WOOF!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one more thing you SAY you are a veterinary SURGEON. Meaning you want to mutilate rather than prevent illness. What we talk about here is preventing those illnesses you mentioned through PROPER nutrition, PROPER feeding so you won\\\&#8217;t need to cut on them. You are rather goofy because your aim is to wait for the cure and again that is just the dumbest thing because any intelligent person knows that the ounce is far better than the pound when it come to cure. I seriously doubt you\\\&#8217;re a surgeon and if so, I reallly feel sorry for the animals in your care.</p>
<p>Have a pawsitively tail waggin\\\&#8217;, natural health day, WOOF!</p>
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		<title>By: Shadrach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadrach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Lucas,
Hope you stick around as you obviously have a lot to learn and could really take an anatomy lesson in the make up of a CARNIVORE  which is what a dog is. Oh and where is YOUR proof that dogs need to eat overcooked packaged kibbles loaded with grains and preservatives not to mention diseased, dead animals rendered in? Have you ever seen wild dogs hard baking their freshly caught prey while sitting around a campfire??? If so, it must be in the comic strip of your life. Dogs DNA and a wolf\\\'s DNA are almost indiscernible in nature so that means that both wolves AND dogs need to eat meat and bones to thrive. I bet you\\\'re not even a veterinarian but another of the jokers from the pet food industry.

I\\\'ll continue to laugh at your ignorant posts hehe. Oh and where have you been where vaccinations are concerned? Gee Dr. Jean Dodds, DVM, Dr. Ronald Schultz, DVM, Dr. Roger Burns, DVM, and the list goes on are fighting to END overvaccination. So hmmm, you should brush up on current veterinary medicine. Or maybe instead just go to school period because you do not strike me as a veterinarian at all because your \\\'argument\\\' is completely idiotic.

Hehe have a pawsitively tail waggin, raw meat and bones day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Lucas,<br />
Hope you stick around as you obviously have a lot to learn and could really take an anatomy lesson in the make up of a CARNIVORE  which is what a dog is. Oh and where is YOUR proof that dogs need to eat overcooked packaged kibbles loaded with grains and preservatives not to mention diseased, dead animals rendered in? Have you ever seen wild dogs hard baking their freshly caught prey while sitting around a campfire??? If so, it must be in the comic strip of your life. Dogs DNA and a wolf\\\&#8217;s DNA are almost indiscernible in nature so that means that both wolves AND dogs need to eat meat and bones to thrive. I bet you\\\&#8217;re not even a veterinarian but another of the jokers from the pet food industry.</p>
<p>I\\\&#8217;ll continue to laugh at your ignorant posts hehe. Oh and where have you been where vaccinations are concerned? Gee Dr. Jean Dodds, DVM, Dr. Ronald Schultz, DVM, Dr. Roger Burns, DVM, and the list goes on are fighting to END overvaccination. So hmmm, you should brush up on current veterinary medicine. Or maybe instead just go to school period because you do not strike me as a veterinarian at all because your \\\&#8217;argument\\\&#8217; is completely idiotic.</p>
<p>Hehe have a pawsitively tail waggin, raw meat and bones day!</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a veterinary surgeon from the UK, I was very interested to read some of the articles on your website.

I would be very interested to see ANY evidence you have for some of the bizarre facts you state eg: how raw diets are substantially better than manufactured diets. As regards your quote on why dogs these days 'seem to be iller', dogs these days in fact live considerably longer than they used to. Conditions such as cancer become more apparent because diseases such as parvo,lepto, adenovirus and other killers have been so well controlled with vaccinations.

They may also appear sicker because diagnosis of conditions is so much more advanced, so conditions can be diagnosed much earlier.

I will continue to monitor your site and laugh at most of it.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a veterinary surgeon from the UK, I was very interested to read some of the articles on your website.</p>
<p>I would be very interested to see ANY evidence you have for some of the bizarre facts you state eg: how raw diets are substantially better than manufactured diets. As regards your quote on why dogs these days &#8217;seem to be iller&#8217;, dogs these days in fact live considerably longer than they used to. Conditions such as cancer become more apparent because diseases such as parvo,lepto, adenovirus and other killers have been so well controlled with vaccinations.</p>
<p>They may also appear sicker because diagnosis of conditions is so much more advanced, so conditions can be diagnosed much earlier.</p>
<p>I will continue to monitor your site and laugh at most of it.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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